‘All my songs are political’

love gownNew album by Chico Caesar, which hits digital platforms on the twenty third, is purposefully embedded with Africa. And naturally. Born in Catole do Rocha, within the inside of Paraba, he is aware of that his music bathes in the identical waters that had been created by the Malians. Salif KitaOne of his company from the brand new work.

In reality, it was Keita who confirmed Chico that music made on the periphery of the nation may attain the widespread individuals. Ray componentsAnother visitor identified to the Brazilian that Luiz Gonzaga’s music was African in its type.

Recorded in France on the invitation of the Zamora label, with manufacturing by French Belgian Jean Lemoot, the album options Brazilian, French and African musicians within the baseband. Foro, Jamaican reggae, Zairian rumba, calypso, cocoa and rock from Brazil’s north and northeast include genuine songs that discuss love, sensuality, encounters, post-pandemic life, politics and faith. These final two themes go collectively in reggae BolsominiansA direct criticism of supporters of President Jair Bolsonaro, whose title Chico avoids even announcing.

Talking about no love gownA report was obtained from Chico Estadao At his house in Sao Paulo on the eve of leaving for a month-long tour of Europe. In November, will probably be Brazilians’ flip to see a brand new present from the artist, who already has one other album nearly prepared, Beauty for usHe recorded with Argentine musicians he met in Uruguay.

Singer Chico Cesar poses for Estadao at his house in Sao Paulo Photograph: Daniel Teixeira/Estado

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In the music that opens the album, Flor de Figo, you say “once more, one thing occurred to me”. What was this reunion about?

It is a self-analytical music. I say I’m open to like. And he would not love anybody. And sure to life, to be alive. It’s a great epidemic music. And it was she who advised me that there was a file being born. A form of locomotive round which different songs had been organized. A brand new second for me.

You current this file as a pan-African work. Talk about this concept.

I’m of African descent, in South America, in Brazil. I feel my music has at all times had this diasporic place. And, over time, the attention that Eastern music is African music has turn out to be stronger. The one who alerted me to this some time again was Ray Lema. He advised me: essentially the most African composer in Brazil, after Luiz Gonzaga, is you. Ray defined to me that Gonzaga’s music is totally African. Asa Branca has a riff after which a chant. And that is repeated. This attribute is totally African. The consciousness of realizing that forró, coco, xaxado, baião is African music at all times offers me the peace to start out from the identical place, the African roots. And all very naturally.

You are the music accomplice on this new file Xangô and forró and ai.

This “ouch” is one thing like “Friday I’m going out, meet my buddies and ouch”. In France, it will be equal to Oh la la. I composed this music on a small tin guitar I introduced from South Africa. Ray Lema could be very totally different from what you think about an African artist to be. He has a music diploma, is an orchestra conductor and a jazz pianist. We met within the late Nineties. He got here to my home. I did not converse Portuguese. I did not converse English or French. We took the guitar and performed. Our conferences at all times deliver renewed pleasure. He desires to take me to deep Africa so we will carry out collectively.

You are a kind of ambassador for Salif Keita in Brazil. Many individuals knew him due to the music At first look. Talk about this different visitor on the disc.

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When I first heard it, I felt like I used to be listening to one thing new. A person who’s born white the place solely black individuals are born. A person with a excessive voice, who was born in a small village in Mali and who took the music from that place to a pop, city setting. So within the music I put him on the identical degree as Prince. It was solely after I heard Salif Keita that I used to be inspired to cease singing with a guitar and begin a band. I, Catole do Rocha, in Paraba, may converse much more powerfully to the populations dwelling within the cities.

music About people, which you probably did collectively, speaks of selfishness and greed, two feelings against artwork. How did she come?

She was born within the epidemic, within the kitchen of my home, with an electrical guitar. Probably after I heard Angela Merkel (former chancellor of Germany) speaking to the German inhabitants that the world goes by means of tough occasions, everybody ought to keep at house, however the nation’s authorities will assist something for science initiatives and to keep away from hunger. And Brazil was getting in the wrong way to what Merkel was saying. Here it was that the federal government was an ally of the virus. I noticed that the coronavirus was not about energy, it was one thing that was above us. I imagined that the virus would match us. It was an phantasm. The first individual contaminated with the coronavirus right here was a white individual, who got here from Europe, who contaminated a black one who needed to go to work for this white individual. The first individual to die in Brazil was a black lady. The pandemic has exacerbated the social issues that existed after the invention of Brazil for teams such because the homeless, indigenous individuals, girls, the LGBTQIA+ inhabitants. For these individuals, life has at all times been an epidemic.

“‘Bolsominians’ are not in opposition to evangelicals, however in opposition to those that conform to the Christian religion”, says Chico Cesar Photograph: Daniel Teixeira/Estado

And then we acquired to the music BolsominiansIn which you say “Humanity doesn’t wish to be saved”.

This music is usually misunderstood. She shouldn’t be in opposition to evangelicals, however in opposition to those that conform to the Christian religion. It appears that a part of the evangelical church has turn out to be human shields for the neo-fascist military. Many evangelical pastors have written to me thanking him and saying that they are not allies of this moneylender within the temple, within the golden calf cult, in God of Arms. This shouldn’t be a part of the Christian religion. Another degree of this music is that this verse. I’m speaking in regards to the Bolsominians who don’t acknowledge that there’s one other massive a part of the inhabitants who preach different faiths – or no religion in any respect – and who don’t wish to be saved by them. These individuals need heaven proper right here proper now. And not later.

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And talking of faith, whose wrath do you worry this music?

I’m not afraid. They need us to be afraid. They don’t settle for extra aggressive, aggressive proposals. They say, “Do they nonetheless say one thing? They have to be dancing the Siranda in Largo da Batata”. when i sing (music) the stone And I say “hearth on the fascists” shouldn’t be pacifist Siranda. I lately had a pastor and priest on my present and requested to take an image within the dressing room. He advised me: “Congratulations on the present, I simply do not agree with the political half”. I advised him that fascism shouldn’t be politics. It shouldn’t be a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. Authoritarian sectors should perceive that libertarians have the precise to civil disobedience as a way to make society extra simply.

Some time in the past a follower requested you to keep away from politically oriented music.

He was a person! (Chico corrects). A lady will not often ask me that. I lately did a present at a union in Aracaju and the ladies went into the dressing room giddy with gratitude. It felt like I used to be in a kissing sales space. There was a person, from the left, and he advised me he was lacking (music) The king of agribusiness. Men are at all times lacking one thing. They are by no means glad. They at all times wish to say how issues needs to be. All my songs are political in nature. Since then At first look, by which the ultimate refrain is in an African language that nobody is aware of, consists. This is a political alternative. And triumphant, as a result of everybody sings.

Guilherme Arantes mentioned that Brazilian music is not delirious. Zé Ramalho, in an interview with ‘Estadão’, agreed and added that present songs discuss on a regular basis romantic themes or digressions about politics. What is your opinion on this problem?

Guilherme’s personal speech is proof that Brazilian music is delirious. And lengthy reside delirium! If you take heed to Ava Rocha, Negro Leo, Tim Bernardes…there may be nothing extra delusional. I discover it unusual after we look again and say we had higher occasions. Then I agree with Gilberto Gil and say that the most effective place is right here and now. It will not be tomorrow and it wasn’t yesterday. Each time together with his delusions and his delusions. Now it additionally made me wish to type a band known as “Guilhermes Delirantes”. (Laughs). I’m a giant fan of it! These days I used to sing with Zelia Duncan Go down the mountain (from William). Paulinho Mosca, who’s a bit youthful than me, did not know.

“Brazilian music has delirium. And lengthy reside delirium!” Photograph: Daniel Teixeira/Estado

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